The Way Out is In podcast series features conversations between journalist and Plum Village lay friend Jo Confino and Plum Village monastic Brother Phap Huu, alongside other guests. These meditations conclude each episode with practice contemplations on the theme.
#65 Taming Our Survival Instinct: Joined by frequent guest Sister True Dedication (Sister Hien Nghiem). Together the hosts and guest discuss "manas" - "an aspect of the mind that wants to believe we're separate; wants to crave after all the pleasures of life; wants to avoid suffering, and does not like the idea of moderation".
The episode ends with a short meditation guided by Brother Phap Huu:
"Allowing myself to be in stillness, stillness...arriving".
Music: From the song "Be Still" by Plum Village friend Joe Holtaway - find out more about Joe here: joeholtaway.com. Joe is happy to hear from you 🙂.